This week's episode is an interview with martial artist/ordained minister Benjamin Brown about the biggest lessons learned in his life and pursuits. Listen to find out how parental examples of integrity, a profound moment in preparing for prison ministry, peacefully defusing dangerous situations, and a whole lot more relate to those lessons. This conversation is everything from funny to serious, all through the lens of some fundamental themes. Whether you like the idea of a martial artist minister or you just enjoy interesting life stories, this one might be for you!